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2big NAS · 5big NAS Pro · CloudBox · Network Space · d2 Network

LaCie NAS data recovery. Designed in Paris, built on mdadm.

LaCie's network units, the 2big NAS, the 5big NAS Pro, the CloudBox and the Network Space family, ran LaCie's own Linux and later Seagate's NAS OS once Seagate took control of LaCie in 2012, and every one of them keeps its data on ext4 or ext3 over Linux RAID. They are discontinued now, arriving with dead power supplies, a member lost from a mirror or a RAID 5, or after a reset that reinitialised the volume. A single-drive Network Space or CloudBox is £300 + VAT; a 2big NAS is £500 + VAT upwards; a 5big starts at £1,250 + VAT, in writing after the free look. Do not run LaCie's reset, and do not let a new unit initialise the drives.

Free first lookOne fixed figure in writingNo data, no bill on most jobsReturn postage paid

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Power it down. Label each drive with its bay number. Do not rebuild, repair, initialise, reinstall or reset. A rebuild reads every sector of every surviving drive, and on a set with a second weak member it finishes what the first failure began. Nothing on the drives gets worse while the unit is off.

Models we see, family by family.

Which kind of unit is it →
Family Models Bays, OS, file system and layout
SingleNetwork Space, Network Space 2, CloudBox, d2 Network 21 drive · ext3 or ext4
Two-bay2big NAS, Network Space MAXRAID 0 or 1 · ext4
Five-bay5big Network 2, 5big NAS ProRAID 5 or 10 · ext4 · NAS OS

What tends to go wrong on a LaCie NAS.

Seagate's ownershipSeagate took a controlling stake in August 2012 and about 93.5 per cent by that December; later LaCie NAS units ran Seagate's NAS OS and share its SimplyRAID layout.
Power suppliesA general pattern on the 2big and 5big: the external supply fails, the unit looks dead, the drives are fine.
The resetLaCie's reset and the NAS OS reinstall re-create the system and can reinitialise the volume. Left alone, the drives come back from images.

LaCie NAS symptoms, and how long each gives you.

Not listed? Describe it on the form →
Packing it and posting it: power the unit down, write the bay number on each drive with a marker before it comes out, and send every drive from the set, including any SSD cache. Each drive travels in an anti-static bag inside its own padding, in a box with nothing able to move; the unit itself comes too if it holds an encryption key or a proprietary layout, and its power supply with it. Insure the parcel for what the files are worth rather than the price of the drives, and use a tracked service. The posting address is not printed anywhere on this site; it arrives by email in reply to the form, with a booking sheet to print; the sheet inside the parcel is what matches it to your enquiry when it is opened. Or hand the sealed parcel in at the nearest of ten drop-off points, your name on the outside and the sheet inside; say where you are on the form and it comes by email. We pay the postage home either way. The whole of it is written up on the guide to packing and posting.

What the message means on a LaCie NAS.

Describe yours to us →
What you see The usual reason Where that leaves you
Unit dead; drives spinPSU or boardDrives imaged; set assembled from the metadata
Volume missing after a rebootA member dropped, or the file system damagedImaged; assembled; repaired on the image
No manufacturer software any moreThe brand has goneNot needed; the layers are standard Linux
Drives read as unformatted in a PCext3, ext4 or XFS on mdadmMounted from the images

From the box arriving to your files going back.

Work we have closed →
01

Logged the day it lands, and the first look costs nothing Free

A case number goes on the parcel and a number on every drive the day it is opened, and an engineer settles what has actually happened before anything spins. The unit is examined on its own; each drive is assessed on our own equipment, never in a NAS that will try to rebuild. Back to you come two things together: a straight note of what is liftable and what is not, plus one figure, fixed and written down. Accept it, or decline and owe us nothing.

Nothing to pay for lookingA single figure, put in writingNo rebuilds, no repairs, no resets
02

The unit, and the drives, apart

The box and the disks are two different jobs. The unit is tested separately, because a dead power supply, a failed board or a bricked boot flash leaves the drives untouched more often than not. Each drive is then read on the bench: the ones that answer at full speed, and the weak or failed ones in clean air where they need head work. On units that hold an encryption key or a layout of their own, the unit is part of the data and is kept with it.

Unit and disks assessed separatelyFailing members to the clean bench
03

Every member imaged, once

Nothing is worked on live and nothing is rebuilt on the originals. Every drive in the set is imaged sector by sector, the weak ones head by head with the bad areas last, and the SSD cache with them where there is one. From then on the originals are not touched again.

Every drive, including the cacheWeak areas last
04

The set put back together, from the images

Order, chunk size, parity rotation and the reshape point are read from the drives' own metadata and the array is reassembled in software: mdadm and LVM under SHR, X-RAID and QTS pools; a ZFS pool imported read-only; Drobo's BeyondRAID zones reconstructed. The file system, Btrfs, ext4, XFS or ZFS, is repaired on the virtual volume, and encrypted volumes are unlocked there with the key you supply. Never on the originals.

Rebuilt in software, from imagesThe file system repaired on the virtual volume
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You see the file list before you pay

What was recovered is listed for you first, and only then does a bill exist. Approve the list and it is invoiced; turn it down and it is not — and where nothing has come back, most jobs carry no charge at all. Recovered data travels home on fresh media bought in for your job, with the postage at our end. Your case is not closed until you have opened the files on a machine of your own.

No charge until you accept the figureFresh media, supplied with the job5–10 days at the bench

From the bench

  • The brand has gone; the layout has not. These units are mdadm and an ext or XFS file system, read from images without the maker.
  • Years off is not years safe for the drives inside, which stick and seize like any others. Let the bench bring them up once.
  • Do not buy a used unit of the same model to try the drives in. It offers to initialise them, and some do without asking.

What helps, and what harms.

Do this much first

  • Power down and label the bays
  • Send every drive and the unit
  • Tell us the model and what it last did
  • Say what you hope is on it

What sets us back

  • Trying the drives in another unit
  • Initialising drives a PC shows as unformatted
  • Powering it repeatedly to see
  • Opening the drives

Questions answered before you commit.

Who made the drives inside my LaCie NAS?

Seagate, in nearly every unit since 2012. They are recovered as drives, and the set as mdadm.

The 5big controller is dead. Are the drives readable?

Yes. The RAID 5 is mdadm on the drives, assembled from images without the unit.

What does it cost?

£300 + VAT for a single-drive unit; a 2big is £500 + VAT upwards; a 5big from £1,250 + VAT.

Begin here if yours is doing the same thing.

Nothing gets worse while it is powered down.

Looking at it is free. Back comes a list of what opened and what did not, together with a single price to finish, set down in writing while you are still free to say no. On most jobs an invoice only follows the data. Until that list reaches you, leave the unit off and the drives in their bays.

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